Wednesday, July 13, 2005

Hi Standard Model "B" .22 Pistol

Hi Standard Model "B" .22 Caliber Semi-Auto Pistol

The little button on top of the slide is VERY important!

When Hi Standard first started producing pistols, the first model they came out with was the model B. They made it in both a long barrel and a short barrel version. The one pictured is the long barrel model. The basic design was derived from an earlier Browning design, as was the Colt Woodsman. In fact, the Woodsman and the Model B look almost identical, although they are not.

The model B turned out to be a reliable, well made, and accurate pistol. Some people didn't like the grip, as for a person with large hands, it was on the short side. On later models this was changed, and the grip was extended. On later models the magazine capacity was increased from nine to ten rounds. Later models also incorporated a slide lock back lever, which the Model B did not have.

When I first came across this particular Hi Standard Model B, it was in sorry shape. The corner of the left grip panel is the retainer for the side frame cover, and the corner of the panel had been broken off, so the side cover had fallen off, along with several other small pieces that the cover had retained.

Fortunately, Al was familiar with the model B, and was able to order up the replacements for the missing parts. I had Al strip the gun and check it over, and make sure everything else was in order. He also replaces some of the springs that looked a little suspect. I had some small pieces of absolutely beautiful walnut, so I made up a set of grip panels to the same dimension as the original bakelite panels. It took a little bit of careful routing on the inside of the panels to allow clearance, but a little hand fitting, and they fit perfectly. A hand rubbed oil finish made the panels look like they had been on the gun when it was new.

Field stripping the Hi Standard Model B is really easy, but if you do it wrong, you can really mess up the gun! REALLY! See that little button on the top of the slide, just in front of the front sight? Pull the slide all the way rearward, then hold down the button, and let the slide move back forward a ways. The slide spring will then be compressed and held by the button. You can now push down on the takedown lever, and the slide can be slid to the rear and removed.

To re-assemble, hold down the takedown lever, and slide the slide all the way forward. Release the lever, then pull the slide all the way to the rear, and the spring is then released, and you are ready to go.

How's it do out at the range? The feel of the gun is that of a well made, precision piece of equipment. It was originally designed as a plinker, and the non-adjustable sights are perfect for that sort of shooting. The lack of target sights is a limitation for club competition, but once you figure out where it's shooting, that's not such a big deal. The trigger pull is smooth, and breaks like glass. Good triggers are sort of a Hi Standard trademark. Accuracy is very good, and way better than most shooters can shoot!

Would I recommend the Hi Standard Model B. Yes, but considering that collectors are driving the prices up, you will have to pay more for it than you could buy a new gun of other current production brands. That also means that regardless of what you pay for it, you will most likely be able to sell it for more that you originally paid for it.

Odds are, however, that if you buy one of these sweet shooters, you won't EVER sell it, and you sure as heck won't ever wear it out. It's that well made.

No, mine is not for sale........

62 Comments:

At Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:02:00 PM, Blogger Grampapinhead said...

Isn't that like 48-49 yrs old.
I remember a schoolchum showing me his, one afternoon at his house.. It was the first semi loader I ever held. He kept telling me how much he wanted a woodsman, but the price difference was too much. Must have been 1956-57.

 
At Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:21:00 PM, Blogger H2SO4 said...

Nice workmanship on the grips. They are/were sweet pieces of wood.

 
At Monday, July 18, 2005 6:55:00 PM, Anonymous Brandon said...

I walked into my local gunshop today to exercise my second amendment rights, and happened to look into his rimfire case, and whatever did I see but 4, count em 4 Hi Standards, including one with the obnoxiously large thumbrest on the left side, and two others with smaller rests. It was a sight to behold.

 
At Monday, July 18, 2005 7:05:00 PM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

You bought 'em all ,right?

I sure like mine.......

 
At Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:27:00 AM, Blogger Xavier said...

Beautiful Mr. C, beautiful1

 
At Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:15:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I NEED HELP!....i have a hi standard model H-A and it was field stripped without pushing the button on the top of the slide. It is so hard to find help and info on these guns and i was wondering if anyone here knew?

 
At Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:17:00 AM, Anonymous Scot said...

i was the anonymous post earlier about the hi standard h-a....just leaving my email to forward any help/info for me

 
At Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:17:00 AM, Anonymous Scot said...

slow.dancing@hotmail.com

 
At Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You stated and I quote
"When Hi Standard first started producing pistols, the first model they came out with was the model B."
Are you implying they made the model B before the model A? That makes no sense whatsoever!!??

 
At Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:39:00 AM, Blogger Jovan said...

Hello all. I just got one of these High Standard model "B" pistols. I think I got a good deal but not sure. From what I have read they were made from 1932-1942, cheaper close copy of a Hartford Arms 1925 Automatic, came with hard rubber grips and a 10 shot mag. Are they worth anything to collectors? They only made about 65,000 they say. Mine has oversized wood grips that kinda hide the mag but fit my hand great. Is there anyway to find out what year mine was made? Can send a pic if anyone wants to see it. Thanks for any info. Jovan

 
At Thursday, May 04, 2006 7:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My brother just tonight, got shot this with .22, he's in the ER room right now with a gun shot wound in his chest area, so I advise anyone don't play with guns or don't think that the gun is unloaded and pull trigger. because u never know!

 
At Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info on the HS, I just inherited one and it is in near new condition as far as I can tell, it is the model b and still has the orginal grips (i assume) with the HS in them,, where would be a good place to look up the s/n to find out more about this thing?

thanks
cstock

 
At Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:14:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello.........I picked up a my Hi Standard "B" from a neighbor two months ago. It was her dads and well cared for. I paid $150.00 for it. About the right price,I hope? It came with a military flap type holster and belt with a weird buckle. Were they sold that way? Oh yeah she shoots all day long at my out house without a wimper.
Ross
CT

 
At Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:17:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how do you fix it once you break it down? I mean if you get the slide off without mashing to button how do you fix it?

 
At Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:43:00 AM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

Anon: Thae hard part is getting the slide off. If you managed to get it off, turn the slide so you can see the bottom side of it, and push the spring and plunger all the way in (towards the rear of the slide) and push the top button down to lock the plunger. Now the slide will go back on by just pushing down the slide release lever and sliding the slide onto the frame. Once the slide is al lthe way forward, pull it rearward once to release the button holding the spring and plunger back.

..... Mr. C.

 
At Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I picked up a Model B several months ago. Not sure when it was made but is Nickle Plated, including the 10 round mag. Looks factory because the lettering is VERY crisp and sharp, fires like a new gun. Any ideas?

 
At Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:03:00 AM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

I've heard that there were some High Standards nickel plated from the factory, but I've never seen one. If it's original it's quite rare, I'd think. Great shooter, too......

..... Mr. C.

 
At Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:28:00 AM, Anonymous Magic said...

Thanks, I'll get the serial # and a photo if you think it would help.

 
At Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a HI Standard Model B nickle plated 22caliber long does anyone no the value of this one!

d.o.

 
At Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:34:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would pay about 600.00 what do you think? you have a rare Hi Standard Model B If it is Nicle Plated? can you post some picture's I am interested!


thanks Buyer

 
At Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a Model-B with black plastic grips. My son was using it and broke the right side grip. Where can I get a replacement grip?

Ron

 
At Sunday, December 09, 2007 5:55:00 PM, Anonymous marvin said...

I have a Hi Standard model A 22 cal pistol sn#78171 in 85% condition. I can read about model Bs all day long, but cannot find out anything about the model A Can anyone out there help me?

 
At Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:58:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have a model A could someone please tell me something about this gun it was my fathers. i cant find anything.

 
At Sunday, December 30, 2007 4:28:00 PM, Blogger Ken said...

I have come across a "B" Model Hi Standard. But I need a set of hand grips and a 10 round mag for it. I have a mag but it is missing some parts. If you could help, I sure would be grateful.

 
At Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:17:00 PM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

Ken: Try searching on eBay for "Hi Standard" and "High Standard". There are several sets of HS Grips on there now, but none for the model B. If you add -vans to your search it will weed out a ton of snowboard boots.

It wasn't hard to make the replacement grips. The only tricky part was the small cut out area on the inside of the grip panels to allow not binding the moving parts.


The original magazines are nine rounds, and maybe Auction arms or Gunbroker or one of those might have some. BEWARE of cheap copy magazines, get the original part.

..... Mr. C.

 
At Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just recently i purchased a Model "B" from my local gunshop. Sweet little pistol but it appears to be a later model as I do not have the button on top of the slide. The take-down lever is on the same side as the trigger lock and the field stripping protocol is to just press down on the lever and slide the slide right off. How long did High Standard make these pistols?

 
At Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:09:00 PM, Blogger gonzo said...

I have a hi standard model b that was missing the clip, I found a website that has parts for all types of guns including the model b. www.brownells.com but you have to specify if it has the military grip or not. They should be able to tell by your serial number on the gun.

 
At Friday, January 11, 2008 10:43:00 AM, Anonymous LivedLongEnoughToBecomeABaldHeadedFatMan said...

My High Standard Model B is 1942 production with 6-3/4" barrel which was a retired bush pilot's actual survival gun kept in his DeHavilland Beaver. I shot some of the old ammo from his seat pack and some new stuff. Accuracy figures are averages of five consecutive 10-shot groups fired off sandbags at 25 yards with iron sights and 59-year old eyes!

1942 High Std Model B, 6/3/4" irons
"Sterile Pack" FMJ Ball M24 2.0"
Canuck (1965) HP 2.2"
CCI Blazer (USA) 1.85"
Eley Standard (UK) 1.5"

I haven't seen anything in the new offerings of .22 handguns which is going to make me want to replace my High Standard. A Model A, B, GB, D, H-B, or H-D in similar VG to Exc. condition will sell for $200-300 less than a comparable condition pre-war Colt Woodsman. The High Standard Model B uses the same magazines as the pre-war Colts. High Standard .22s in serviceable condition are fairly common on web sites such as Cabela's Gun Library, and are well worth looking for to have shipped to your FFL dealer, if you are serious about finding a .22 pistol for your survival ruck. The CCI Subsonic HP is the only standard velocity round I have found which expands reliably from a handgun. Of the high velocity rounds the Winchester Power Point was best.

 
At Friday, February 01, 2008 7:52:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i was simply curiouse i just requierd a high standard pictol model HB i cannot find any information on it and do not know how to find a value i am interested in selling as how i shoot mainly rifles and collect military artifacts it is in amazing condition if you could let me know of any information you may have thank you for your time my emailis bsw12181@aol.com have a good day

 
At Friday, February 01, 2008 8:46:00 AM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

For determining values check on the internet with Gunbroker.com or Auction Arms. Also check to see what's for sale in local gun shops, as sometimes regional prices may differ from national prices.

..... Mr. C.

 
At Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought my Dad an High Standard H-D and was wondering if anyone had a copy of the owners manual in digital format?

 
At Monday, March 31, 2008 8:04:00 AM, Blogger sudhaiob said...

i own a model B with number 8944. can any body help me in locating the year of manufacture. secondly can the rear sight be removed and a new one installed.
pl reply to sudhakar.c1957@gmail.com
thanks

 
At Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:07:00 AM, Anonymous Adam S. said...

I just inherited a High Standard model B and I love to shoot this gun! I am wondering though what the value is because I am wanting to maybe sell it. My HS has the original grips and looks to be in pretty good condition. It fires very nicely. I have seen them going for anywhere between $400 and $600 so I would think that $500 would be a fair asking price correct? Adam17842003@hotmail.com

Please email me if interested or if you have a price that would help me out.

 
At Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have a hi-standard H-D military .22 cal pistol and it shoots high and to the left and i am having a hard time figuring out how to move the rear sight.

 
At Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:40:00 PM, Blogger Tamara said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

 
At Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:42:00 PM, Blogger Tamara said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

 
At Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:33:00 PM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

If I remember correctly, the Hartford Arms company went broke and was resurrected as Hi Standard. The Hartford pistol was very similar to the early HS Model B. If it's like my model B there is a small diameter coil spring that fits into the hole directly below the take down lever. A small plunger/pin slips inside of that spring. The top of the pin sits in a recess in the bottom of the takedown lever shaft. Pushing the plunger down allows the takedown lever to slide to the side and be removed from the frame. If you can't come up with the spring and plunger at a gun show, you might try Numrich Gun Parts, but I hesitate to recommend them as their replica Hi Standard parts are not too well made....

.... Mr. C.

 
At Friday, August 28, 2009 1:46:00 PM, Blogger Davin said...

anyone know where I can find a manual for a model GB? I inherited one from my grandfather and it had some feed issues that the gunsmith tells me is fixed. I'll find out monday when I take my grandson to the range. I can do basic cleaning but want to be able to get the slide apart to clean on my own rather then take to a smith. Thanks

 
At Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:18:00 AM, Blogger gsdhillonbjym said...

I own a HS Model B.Yesterday a friend was trying to remove the slide off by pressing the button on top of the slide and turning the release leaver on the side. The button on the top got pushed into the slide and did not pop up again and the release lever did not turn.then i unscrew the small screw on the side of the slide a metal strip got released not letting the slide move backward again. Please tell me how can i remove the slide so that i can fix all the parts again. Please let me know at depp_dyllan@yahoo.com

 
At Friday, May 07, 2010 3:19:00 AM, Anonymous Big Shrek said...

Need pics of the Holster ;)

 
At Saturday, May 08, 2010 10:23:00 AM, Blogger Glennell said...

I have all three Hi standard models A,B, and C. I am looking to sell.them as a set, can any one tell me the. value. They were left to me by my father.

 
At Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:00:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a mint Hi-Standard , Model GB, but am having difficult in locating an original/vintage magazine. ( I am informed a model B of HB magazine will substitute).

After-market ones are available, but no not fulfill this collector's needs.

Numerous trips to gun shows have failed to uncover one.
Any guidance or suggestions will be most appreciated.

 
At Friday, April 01, 2011 6:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

need a slide release for a modle b .anyone know where i can get one?
If not can this be braised . (the lever fell off . have it need any input.

 
At Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:15:00 PM, Anonymous todd said...

Thanks for the info. This estate sale find just went from broken to properly re assembled and functioning.

 
At Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:34:00 AM, Blogger Peach State Voice said...

This was helpful. I inherited a Model B from my father. It started to jam and have problems auto loading rounds.

I completely stripped down from the instruction on this blog and it works like a champ.

I will not sell mine either. My father-in-law offered to trade me his Colt 44 magnum for it. No way!

 
At Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:46:00 PM, Anonymous Steven Witkowski said...

My Dad also passed one along to me also. I've taken it apart cleaned and lubricated it. So I load the mag and try to chamber a round, it would not chamber at all! It seemed like either the mag spring is worn out because I did manage to get my hopes up when I cycled the action and a round started to feed and then was only fed halfway before the slide stopped pinching the shell casing. I believe mine is a Model B type 1-A due to it not having the button on the top of the slide, and it has the round extracting rod instead of the square one. If you have any suggetions please let me know (as i'd love to start shooting it). My E-Mail is kayakgodsw@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Steve Manchester NH

 
At Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:43:00 AM, Blogger robert m said...

I have a HI STANDARD 22lr model A it has a 6 1/2" barrel can anyone tell me when it was made...sn:83580
This is the only number I can find on the weapon and it's on the handle....

 
At Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:52:00 AM, Blogger robert m said...

I forgot to leave my email which is: ilhac@cableone.net ....robert m

 
At Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:12:00 PM, Blogger Mr. Completely said...

Model A's were built from 1938 through 1942, with numbers ranging from 33,xxx through 97,xxx, so yours would be nearer to the end of the production, I'd say.

Mr. C.

 
At Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:30:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Need ATrigger Bar Spring #41sematic

And #24 Hammer Spring Plunger

for my Model B.

Help!!!!
Thanks
Joe Ariosta
cleo_ariosta@yahoo.com

 
At Friday, December 23, 2011 9:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking for a magazine for a Hartford Arms, .22 Cal.LR, Model 1925, S/N 2942. Mine is marked "Cal. 22 Colt", but is original with the pistol. Contact me at 'jimlusk@aol.com'. Thanks. And Merry Christmas.

 
At Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:05:00 PM, Blogger Indiana Joe said...

I just traded a 1979 snowmobile for a hi standard B and a Pardner 28 gauge single shot. I am interested in selling the model B. If anyone is interested please email me.... josephowens1@yahoo.com

 
At Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In case anyone is interested, this post inspired me to create a Youtube video demonstrating the take-down and assembly procedure of the Model B:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD43GAZ3TZ0

 
At Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

, HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SHOW ME HOW TO TAKE THIS WEAPON DOWN

 
At Monday, March 12, 2012 8:40:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings,
I am pleased to find this site and the following of the vintage Hi-Standard. I have inherited a model GB with both barrels and is in prestine condition and shoots like a DREAM. I am new to the sport and looking for more info regarding the Piru steel challenge as well as adittional accessories as shown., Ie: Volquartsen barrels with red dot scopes...(without modifing oem hardware) I plan on traveling to piru ranges to research more.

-Max

 
At Monday, April 23, 2012 4:06:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also have a High Standard model B and it seems like alot of Fathers left them to there sons. I took my to my local gunsmith and found out many things. The magazines are very rare, if you have the original keep it.The Pistol I have looks brand new wow!Complete with leather holster. I will always cherish this pistol and pass it on to the next generation.Never forget to be a "Student of the Gun"

 
At Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:34:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a HI-standard model "A" was it made before or after the "B" model

 
At Friday, May 04, 2012 4:50:00 PM, Blogger JRM said...

My Hi Standard Model B was passed down from my father. The release button on the top is missing. Any ideas where I can find that part?

 
At Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:12:00 AM, Anonymous tadkins88033@yahoo.com said...

I have a model B HS but the takedown pin sticks out the rear of the slide. any info as to how this works would be appreciated TJA

 
At Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:24:00 PM, Anonymous Jack said...

Some helpful info for adjusting the "adjustable" rear sight on the HD Military: pull the slide to the rear and lock it. Look at the bottom of the slide directly under the rear sight, you will find a small slot head screw. Loosen it one turn and stop. Then look on the rear of the slide and you will find another slot head screw. Loosen it two turns and stop. The rear sight will now be free to move as you please. Move the rear sight in the direction you want the strike of your bullet to go. Then tighten the screws in reverse order. The screw on the rear of the slide holds the sight in place the screw on the bottom of the slide locks the other screw in place. If the sight is stuck try soaking it with solvent, you should be able to move it with just your fingers. The sight should move side to side as well as up or down. I hope this is helpful to someone.

 
At Sunday, February 03, 2013 8:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much is a 22 model b

 
At Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:24:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going mildly nuts working on a HD Military that I purchased a couple months ago, in sad shape--the result of a ham-handed so-called gunsmith, who had buggered every single screw in it, literally destroyed the slide lock assembly lock screw, trying to get it out. I disassembled the gun entirely, sanded the barrel with progressively finer cloth grits to remove bad pitting from wet holster storage, and put it back together. However, I cannot screw in the lock screw all the way. My thread check specs it as 8-40. An 8-40 taper tap will not start in the threads, which incidentally, look good. Any ideas?

 

Post a Comment

<< Home

All contents copyright 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012 and beyond, unless otherwise noted