Friday, December 09, 2005

The Walther G22 .22 Caliber "Bullpup"

The Walther G22 .22 Caliber "Bullpup"

Lookin' for that one last Christmas present for the gun nut on your list? Well, here you go. The Walther G22 "Bullpup" .22 caliber rifle.

As is typical with bullpup designs, the action is moved well back into the stock, greatly shortening the overall length, without compromising barrel length. Yep, that rectangular hole on the side is where the empties come out!

This could be a problem for a left-handed shooter, as hot brass being poked into your ear does tend to be a bit distracting, to say the least. Fortunately, Walther took that into consideration, and the G22 is also available in a left handed version.

Some of the other interesting features include an adjustable length stock, black or camo color scheme, Weaver style mount for optics, and a ten shot removeable magazine.

I wonder how long it will take for someone to come up with a twenty or thirty shot magazine for the G22?

At somewhere around $400. the G22 is certainly not the least expensive .22 out there, but Walther has been known to build some quality stuff, and I expect this is no exception.

It sure would be nice if the'd send me one to test, Yep, it sure would, I'd be glad to test it for them, really, I wouldn't mind a bit, no problem, I've got plenty of ammo.........

For more information on the Walther G22, or other Walther products, have a look at Walther's website.


At Friday, December 09, 2005 10:37:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only bullpup I like is the Steyr AUG. A good friend has one and we shot the bjesus out of many sheets of paper with it. He also had a Navy Thompson he inherited from his DAD, but sold that.

I eyeballed the bullpup stock that Choate makes for my Marlin Camp 45, but I don't think I could get used to the clang and wham of the .45ACP rounds going off that much closer to my face.


At Sunday, December 25, 2005 8:14:00 PM, Blogger Dutch Expat said...

A friend of mine let me shoot his G22. It was a lot of fun... when it worked. The trigger did not work properly most of the time. My friend hypothesized that improper reassembly (apparently a royal PITA) may have been to blame.

I'd like to see this gun in 9 mm, and have it accept 15 round (and larger) Glock magazines. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

At Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Walther G22 can be so accurate I cringed when firing it.., .25 inch groupings at 165ft(50M). The ammunition I used, and belive me, this makes a HUGE difference, was, and still is Wolf Match Extra. This out of all long range subsonic rifles I would have to say is the best; when suppressed it is so...I think the word I'm looking for is quiet.The non-slip grip pads, the pistol grip(based on P99), it's definitly ergonomic, and the adjustable butplates are nice to. And the ammunition is so cheap and good for stealth and covert style profiles, it still makes lethal head shots at 500ft. I wouldn't be too suprised if a police department adopted this thing. Of course, I'm not sure if it's good for military, but it does come in two very tactical colors(Black, and OD green, though it would be nice if it came in desert sand color too,), and the Walther scope and suppressor allows for stealthy shots at pretty amazing distances.It's very good compared to any other semi-auto subsonic rifle, there's so many rail mounts I can't really decide what to mount at times. It would be nice it you could change the calibers, and if there was another spare magazine slot in the grip. It is possible to modify it for that, but it's not very easy.

At Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:52:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought a G22 a year ago. Sadly I dont get to shoot as much as I would like but in 3 times of taking the rifle out it failed every time. Very picky on ammo that it will take and the lever on the slide has fallen off every time. It is a very small thread on the bolt that holds it on and even with a drop of lock-tite it still came loose. I have contacted Walther and they want to see the rifle and seem to be willing to fix the problem. I hope they do. It is very accurate and is great fun when it does work.

At Monday, May 15, 2006 10:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought a G22 on wednesday and the three times that i have shot it it has been one of the best 22'sI have ever shot. It would be nice to see it in 9mm but that will prob. come at a later date. It is one of the most accurate rifles that i have shot and it seems to fire hollow points with out to much trouble I have only had two jams so far and if you follow the disassembly to the letter then it is not that bad to clean. All and all I believe that it is one of the best.

At Monday, June 05, 2006 8:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

G22 is pretty accurate w/ federal match ammo, the only problem w/ this rifle is cleaning, It has 2 almost microscopic spring that u need to be careful of not losing.

At Monday, December 18, 2006 8:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael F. Golden, Smith & Wesson President and CEO

Dear Mr. Golden:

I am no stranger to firearms – my father taught me how to shoot at the age of 6. I am also no stranger to mechanical systems.

On October 31, 2006 I purchased a Walther G22 (PW006297) at your store on Page Blvd. I then bought time at your range and started to acquaint myself with the G22. It began to malfunction immediately. The magazines, when placed in the gun, would allow bullets to pivot upward which would get dented by the slide when it traveled forward. The cocking lever would not stay back most of the time. The gun failed to fire now and then despite the firing pin striking the primer area on the bullet. 

To me this was an unsafe gun and after 100 rounds I returned to the counter and asked for a different gun. I was refused. I was told by the salesperson that the gun needed to be "broken" in. To me this seemed ridiculous and I asked to see the manager. A man named Ernie was introduced to me. He took some CCI ammunition from behind the counter and I accompanied him back into the range. He fired the gun 30 times and had 3 malfunctions –– the same type of malfunctions I had experienced. He told me the magazines were defective and replaced them with 2 used magazines from the tryout G22. He also told me the reason for the other malfunctions was because the gun was dirty and hadn't been cleaned properly before use. In addition he remarked that 22 ammunition was unreliable -- rimfire. I accepted his expert opinion and took the gun home, read the instructions, and cleaned it thoroughly. I found no excess of grease or oil in the gun, only powder residue as one would expect from approximately 200 rounds that we had fired.

I returned to your range about a week later and fired the gun again. This time with only 2 failure to fire incidents which I attributed to ammunition. The slide still failed to stay back after the last round fired, most of the time. I told your range attendant that I was still have problems with the gun. I returned home and cleaned the gun.

About a week later I took the gun to an outdoor range. I placed the magazine in the gun, pulled back the slide, and let go. The slide detonated the first round before it reached its fully forward position. I was hit in the face with debris (mostly my safety glasses and cheek) and the bullet lodged at the opening of the barrel. Rather shocking. I placed the gun back in the case and returned home. I removed the bullet from the chamber and inspected the gun - I could see nothing out of the ordinary and attributed the problem to bad ammunition. I knew of "slamfires" with other guns but have never experienced them, however, I doubted this was a slamfire.

A few days later I took the gun back to the outdoor range. Once again I loaded the magazine into the G22. I held the gun away from me, pulled back the slide and let it go. BANG! Same experience as last time. This time the brass shell fragmented – a piece cut my hand slightly. Again the bullet was stuck in the barrel.

I left the G22 "as is" brass and all, and brought it in for repair to your roosevelt Ave location. I filled out the repair form at the guard house and left. A week later I was called by one of your people telling me the gun was ready. 

I went to your Roosevelt Ave location to pick the gun up. The guard had trouble finding it as no paper work was attached to the case. I recognized the case and gave him my copy of the original form which he was able to match with the serial number. He remarked that the paperwork had been lost. I left with the gun and no explanation of service. I must also note that the foam lining in the case had been pulled free from the case and now "floated" instead of being attached with adhesive.

In hindsight what I did next was not wise. 

I was taking a very good friend's 12 year old son out for his first shooting experience and I took the G22 with me, along with another firearm. I was obviously less than confident about the G22 due to its past malfunctions but believed your service department had fixed whatever problem(s) it had. Big mistake. We went to the outdoor range and I decided to fire the first 50 rounds myself to make sure the gun was OK. The gun loaded fine and this time the slide stayed back after every last shot in the magazine. It seemed like the gun had been fixed. We switched off shooting the gun. At about the 118th shot, when it was Michael's turn (12 year old), the gun malfunctioned again - the slide detonated the bullet prematurely. Smoke from the malfunction made Michael cough a couple of times. He was scared but unhurt. I inspected the gun and found the bullet stuck in the chamber (see attached photo) and the brass still in the breach area. I put the gun in the case and knew this was a seriously defective weapon.

I returned to your store on Page Blvd. with the gun and told Jay Bathgate of the latest malfunction. I asked for a refund OR a new gun. I was told that I had to deal with customer service. I was also told that the manager, Peter Boruchowski, would call me Monday morning about this matter. I then said I didn't want to leave with the gun and Mr. Bathgate said they couldn't take it back and that I needed to return to the Roosevelt Ave location which I did and is where I left the gun. It may be important to note that before I left your store Mr. Bathgate removed the brass from the gun and unfortunately lost it on the floor. There were many shells, including a live round, on the OFFICE floor of the Shooting Sports Center facility.

Peter Boruchowski never called me the next day. In fact nobody called me from Smith and Wesson. That afternoon I called your customer service and asked about the gun. At first they told me they had no record of the gun in your system. A few minutes later after some additional conversation and searching I was told that the gun was in the system and being processed.

As I write this I have still received no refund or explanation of the Walther G22 malfunction from any member of your company.

As a corporate image consultant I have been dealing with people at your corporate level for the past 20 years. Your company, Mr. Golden, is in serious trouble. If you can't do the simple things right, you haven't got a chance at the more complex ones.

My experiences as a customer of Smith and Wesson were quite negative. I would not buy another Smith and Wesson product again and I will never trust the opinion of a Smith and Wesson "expert" again. I was lucky that I, or the 12 year old boy in my charge, were not injured by the defective gun I bought from your company.

It's a shame that another American company is heading for failure. Perhaps, if you as the leader of Smith and Wesson had paid more attention to the way in which your employees think, analyze, and solve problems, the situation I faced would never have happened and wouldn't happen to other shooters at some point down the road.

I hope I will receive the refund I am due for this gun.


p.s. I called your office last week to get your direct email address but nobody returned my phone call. I have sent this email to a general Smith and Wesson email address and will post it on several internet message boards in hope that it will get to you some day.

At Monday, August 20, 2007 11:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God for REAL reviews of shit products like the G22 on the internet. It seems no gun reviewer will ever tell the truth on a product. What the heck are these manufacturers giving these guys?? This gun looks as cheap as it functions and is made. A fine German name on a "made in China" quality firearm.

At Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought a G22 the other day on a complete impulse buy. I was traveling for work on sales calls and bought it about 2 hours from home. I was so proud of my purchase until I got home and read all these horrible reviews. I hadn't shot it yet. I was convinced I was going to try and return it, but I gave it a chance. I ended up shooting 200 round of CCI mini mags through it while siting in the scope and laser. Not a single misfire or stray bullet. I have a safe full of guns and this was hands down the most fun and most accurage gun I've ever shot. I doubt I'll be pulling my M4 Bushmaster out anytime soon with .223 ammo prices like they are. I'm not professional but I was extremely proud of my groups. Almost all of the shots touched the others in the paper target. How could anyone not like this gun. Yes, there are some small parts in side. Just take your time and learn the gun and who cares. Just run it on the dry side and you won't have to clean it as much. I give it a 10 out of 10. Glad I didn't take all these horrible reviews as my own opinion.

At Monday, October 15, 2007 10:48:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent 22! I have had no issues with mine. It is more accurate than my Marlin and Ruger 22s.

At Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most excellent 22 ever. I wanna get the supressor, and pay my 200 bucks of course. The supressor is fairly cheap and available in Germany over the counter or at least that's what I hear

At Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:03:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is my second post on this board. I still love my G22,and have shot +500 round through it with no problems whatsoever. I've only shot CCI Mini Mags. I broke down the gun and didn't have the nightmare with the springs inside that everyone seems to have. I had the barrel threaded for a suppressor and was putting the Front Sight carrier back on and tapped it a little too hard and cracked it. It's on there fine, but he crack was driving me crazy. I broke down and called S&W (Walther America) expecting to get some jerk on the phone with no parts to ship me. Suprisingly I got the oppoiste. I told him what I needed, he said "Sure, it's not expensive, i can ship it out to you @ no charge. It looks like there is an alternative site also. I'll throw that in there @ no charge too." I couldn't believe it. While I was on a roll, i said "While you're shipping this, could you go ahead and throw in some of those small springs that everyone looses. He said "No Problem", they were on backorder, but would ship those separately when they came in. I think his name was Greg.

I couldn't have been happier. I guess if you're nice to them, they will be nice back.

At Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:48:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have had my G22 for about 6 months now, i had some initial feeding problems and started to believe the bad reports on the wee .22,m but i've now put around 2000 rounds through it everything from mini mags, cci subsonic target, cci sub hollowpoint, winchester bulkpack rubbish, shotshells and cci velositors, all of which cycle time after time without any problem. i use a harris bipodpod and a deben hawk 4-16X50 scope, usually with the proper walther moderator and find 20 round groups inside 1/2" at 60 yds shooting prone. the point of impact, initially, was changeable, but after contacting centra (the UK importer for walther, i'm from n. ireland) i was advised that the the mod in the front pillar of the scope rail was fitted to my rifle, but advised me to tighten the screw on the pillar which made a huge diffrerence immediatly!
i shoot targets, rabbits and crows and am always climbing fences and gates in all weathers, obviously the gun takes quite a beating, yet performs flawlessly.
i love my wee rifle and could not recomend it enough. buy one take a little time(and about 1000 rounds) to run it in and you will love it.

ps, you get used to the trigger very easilly.

At Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:12:00 PM, Blogger Robert Crawford said...

Bought my G22 today and have never owned a better .22 rifle. It is as accurate as my old Savage model 63 single-shot bolt-action, my dad's Remington Sportmaster model 512, and my grandfather's O.F. Mossberg and Sons model 51m! I was afraid of buying a newer model gun due to the experience I had with a Remington Viper 522, but my fear soon dissipated soon after visiting a makeshift range and firing some 100-150 rounds thrhough this gun. It functioned almost flawlessly shooting the bulk Federal hollowpoints I purchased to plink with. I took the tops off 20oz soda bottles with 1 shot at 25-30 yards out of the box, and I bought the basic model with only open sights! I plan to add a bipod and red-dot site later. My ONLY complaint so far is the difficulty finding extra magsazines. Sure the two included magazines are more than enough for varmint shooting and small game hunting, but I would like to have a few more when I'm out plinking.

At Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I puchased this rifle back in September of 2007. To date I have fired about 1,300 rounds and had no trouble at all. I have even shot 100 rounds of super colibri out of it even though I really should not have. A great rifle with a big ego for a small caliber. I prefer shooting CCI ammo but I have shot Winchester, Remington, and Aguila out of it just fine. It is a rifle I will not ever sell and a sure keeper!

At Friday, March 28, 2008 4:27:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two days ago I purchased a new Walther G22 on an impulse buy. It took it home, looked it at, drooled, then proceeded with my day. After reading posts on this board I got a bit worried. I shrugged it off and mounted my Bushnell scope to go to the range the following day. 4 rounds in one hole @ 75' rapid firing, after I got the scope calibrated. I was using Remington bulk ammo. Accuracy was even better while using Winchester wildcat lead round nose Hi-Vel.

At Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:06:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bought my G22 about a month ago here in Phoenix, Arizona. Took it home and cleaned it, then out into the desert we went. I shot about 500 rnds of the cheap Remington 550 bulk through it with only 1 misfire (bad ammo..failed to fire). Then shot Velocitors, stingers, and wildcats through it. Very tight groups at 25 yards with only a cheap BSA red-dot (dont hate me).

I'm so very happy with this gun that I have been sinking so much into it to make it look very tactical. Command Arms front foregrip/pivot bi-pod. Barska SWAT 10-40x50 IR SF scope. Soon to have a Millet SP-2 red-dot attached to the side of the scope for up close shooting. Yes this gun isn't as accurate as a decked out 10/22..but it's cooler and draws a ton of attention at the range!!

At Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:27:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wanted the G22 as soon as I saw it.
Bought one second-hand from a reputable dealer and took it to the range.
The cocking handle keeps coming loose.
The bullet heads keep getting chipped when chambered which makes it wildly inaccurate beyond 25 yards.

Other than that MAJOR flaw it's good fun.

At Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:56:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The G22 mags are 10 shot but look like they could hold more if the follower was changed? ARe there 10+shot mags?

At Monday, October 20, 2008 9:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought this gun roughly two months ago. Pure impulse. I was looking at a Bushmaster, because I just wanted an assault rifle that badly. I looked at .223 ammo...and decided on this instead. I have since mounted a 35 dollar scope from Wal-Mart on this. Best buys I have had. I read these other reviews, and yes, I have had problems. If your bullet has a large hollow point, or is not copper-coated as the Federal rounds are, some may jam. And yes, sometimes it catches a shell before it is ejected. I have heard that Walther has since fixed this by putting a heavier slide on it, I am not sure. But this gun, at 150 yards, was hitting skeet lined up with beyond deadly accuracy. Ten minutes of lining the scope up and I layed down, and started sniping. This gun is beyond accurate. Not only could I pick which skeet, I could pick top, bottom, sides, or middle, and do it easily. I have a middle-quality Marlin with great accuracy, but nothing close to this. Even without a scope (once you figure out the sighting...6 is close distance, 1 is far. I bet I just made a thousand people go "Well...that helps...a lot") it is a great weapon. I keep this thing with me at all times, and the great thing is? I am 18. I am 5'6. And this gun fits me like it was made for ME. Great product. But a few flaws here and there. Some of the ones produced obviously suck, but mine sure as hell doesn't.

At Monday, October 27, 2008 8:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw a used G22 at my local gun shop today and was immediately interested. I told the clerk that I would buy it if it passed a shooting test at their range. It did not pass my test. Out of 50 rounds it failed to feed 4 times. Twice it struck the shell and did not cause the shell to go off. The clerk blamed old ammo. I do not buy this explanation. I have fired thousands of rounds of .22 ammo in my life, and this is the first time I have had such a problem. In addition to these problems the trigger was terrible.
More creep than I have ever experienced. This gun has a Bushnell red dot that I sighed in today, and a Walther laser that I did not use, and a folding broom handle attached to the forearm.
They want $495. Seemed like a deal intill I shot the thing. For those of you who like these things.. the shop is Badger Guns
in Milwaukee, Wi.

At Monday, January 19, 2009 11:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whether you love or hate this gun depends ENTIRELY on the type of ammo you choose. Despite what you may read, it will not fire subsonic 22 rounds with jamming repeatedly. CCI HYPER (not high) Velocity rounds are the only ammo I have found with enough recoil to run the slide through its full action.
And the only REAL mishap I have come across was an instance where a round could not eject from the chamber when my brother used it without my supervision... So despite the safety features telling me nothing was in the chamber, it was... You can see how this could be bad, but that is why you always assume it is loaded... and brother was it.
Anyway, its a good gun so long as you have good ammo. very accurate. extremely quiet (even without a suppressor, I can't imagine with one...). loads of accessories. I have not tackled disassembly yet, but judging from the directions looks somewhere between a novice and a pro.

At Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:25:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

bought a second hand g22 from my local gun shop, had been for sale for £250.00 which i thought was a good price, when i eventually bought it got it for £130.00, came with a sling, lazer sight and walther red dot scope. took it to the range and at first had loads of problems with jams, used all sorts cci high valocity, american eagle to name but a few. eventually discovered cci standard valocity works great, ok to clean so long as you read instructions well, and watch out for the tiny springs. i bought a tiny clamp to hold trigger together when i disasemble. great gun and very accurate. very pleased with my purchase

At Sunday, March 01, 2009 2:07:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I purchased a G22 in 2006 in California and experienced some of the feeding and jamming problems mentioned above. I sent the gun back for service and received it a few months later (not their fault for taking so long - I was in to the process of moving to Tennessee and asked them to ship it to my new address).

Since I got it back it has been flawless. Very accurate, lots of fun. I did order extra springs but have also discovered that as far as cleaning goes I spray it down with a safe gunk removing cleaner, use a bore snake and wipe everything down I am good for a long time. Once in a great while I will pull the barrel and receiver out of the stock - but I haven't had to take it apart and mess with the little springs (although I did buy six of each so I figure I am set for the life of the gun)

I am mostly plinking and have found it LOVES the Federal bulk ammo (36 gr jacketed HP)- the cheap stuff from WalMart!!!!

I am using a Bushnell Trophy Red Dot Multi reticle and it will hit anything I can point at.

I also used some Stingers on a ground hog with deadly effect.

I got the left handed version and after taking it apart you will see that it is no big deal to change it over.

It is a fun gun and you will want to get some extra magazines and stock up on bulk ammo

At Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:40:00 PM, Anonymous Randeezey said...

i bought one about a year ago, and i love it. when i first purchased it i asked the guy if there was any problems. he said at first it might jam and that you just have to break it in (a box or 2 would do it). when i went shooting a month after i got it. i put about 750 rounds through it. 250 rnds of remingtons that were kinda old. and then a brand new box of american eagle big 5 stuff. the 250 did jam every once in a while but that was because they were really old and werent properly stored (tips loose). the 500 of the new box worked amazing with maybe 1 or 2 problems out of 500.

At Friday, September 25, 2009 7:37:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought mine 3 weeks ago and it was a used model. It looked good and clean almost like new for $300. I had some CCI stingers that were in my safe for about 5 years and almost immediatly I had 2 slam fires and a few jams out of 75 rounds. That round is so much hotter than any .22 I have used before. I switched to Winchester super X copper coated hollow point hight velocity and found I can cycle about 350 rounds through it with no problems. After that it would have the occasional jam and I learned that the jams were coming from the tip of the bullet getting chipped as it loaded into the barrel. I then learned that there was buildup and deposits forming on the part that guids the bullet from the mag into the barrel. When the build up was cleaned the rifel began to chamber just fine and I could run a few hundred more through it. I am still searching for the cleanest round so I can shoot longer without having to clean as often. Remington Gold hollow point bulk are awful and made a real mess of my gun and took a lot of cleaning, Winchesters ran real good, Mini Mag ran good but cost a bit more, Wild Cat are junk in this rifle.

Every time I go shooting with this gun I have sooooooo much fun! Use the right ammo and shoot all day.

I bought a Barska plinking scope, $20 laser from outdoor bunker and a bipod and can't wait to get back to the range or field. In three weeks time this used gun has seen about 1500 rounds and it gets cleaned every time. I do run it a bit on the dry side and that seems to help. This gun will run some cheap ammo ok before it really gets dirty so if you like shooting tracer rounds shoot them before it gets too bad. That turns some heads when they see a bullpup firing a tracer every 2nd or 3rd shot.

Bottom line I think it was a real good purchase and enjoy every minute shooting it. My 10/22 may be a bit more reliable but the fun factor isn't there. I'm going to convert my 10/22 to an AR15(22) soon.

At Monday, March 08, 2010 12:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've had this gun for about 3 years. Just got it out after having it stored in Sacramento at my Dad's. I've never had a problem before, but this time it repeatedly jamed on CCI Mini Mags. I've used lots of other ammo including Wolff, Remington and Winchester without problem. I mean not a SINGLE problem. I love this gun, but never again with CCI Mini Mags.

At Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:53:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

do not buy this gun!!!!!!! i bought this gun for my birthday and have had nothing but problems. first i was having a lot of failure to fires (ftf). 2 or 3 a magazine. but no jams at all. sent it back.
it came and you could not unload it by following the instructions in the manual. The extrator would not pull the unfired round out. i called smith and wesson and got put through to a gunsmith and he told me that normal and to stick somthing into the breach and pull the round free. What? The manual is wrong? yes all blowback guns have this problem. the p22 is the same way. I own a p22 and it never has a problem being unloaded. Well you are lucky you got one that works right.
I then took the gun back to the store that i bought it from and they would not take it back so they called s&w and they then sent the gun back(this all happened the same day i got it back)
a few weeks later the gun came back. i picked it up and tried it out. it still had ftf's and it now jamed using the same ammo out of the same boxes as before! it is now on its way back for the third time. i bought it 2 and a half months ago i have only had it in my house about 5 nights and i am still waiting on a working gun. i will never buy a s&w product again because they do not stand buy their products. the second time I sent it in they tested it and said it worked fine. i think they are either to lazy or incompetent to even test it properley.

At Monday, October 11, 2010 12:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I purchased my G22 at a gunshow in Florida. Took it to the range. Tried CCI ammo. Jams, misfires. Not happy at all. Had to tear it down at the range to get the bolt to move completely forward. Re assembled and oiled. Still problems. Took it home. Disassembled it. Took a file to a couple parts. They we not machined very well. Also used some steel wool. Action is alot smoother than it was. Will try it again tomorrow. If problem persists, I am looking for a buyer.

At Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am happy to see some mixed reviews! I received this gun as a gift about 3 years ago. I saw it at the florida gun show. It was my first rifle (I own two shotguns) and I was very excited about it. I don't hunt but I like to plink. Unfortunately I have experienced all the problems plus another one not mentioned. Chipped ammo, lodged ejected shells, trigger stopped working, bolt and slide jammed (had to take it to a gunsmith), cocking lever bolt broke, ammo stuck in barrel... and those stupid little springs. I saw there was a recall on their website about a year or two ago but never got around to sending it in, I think it was to fix the chipping ammo by filing the entrance of the barrel. I am going to contact Walther/S&W this week and see what they say. Here is the deal: the design is awesome, looks and ergonomics of the gun, but I have had a lot of issues. Almost every time I have took it to the range I have had issues. I tried different ammo and standard Remington seems to work the best for me. I have had duds in all the ammo I have tried. I like the gun for its feel and looks (and it's potential) but the issues out weigh the good. Maybe I have a bit of a lemon and their gunsmiths can fix it. I have cleaned it so many times and changed the ammo in hopes that the problems would be fixed, but no luck. I could easily sell it at the gun show because everyone always asks about it when I bring it with me, same for the gun range (it gets a lot of attention). I will post something once I find out what Walther says. I would like to keep the gun if it can be fixed. For the price of this gun, I feel the quality has been not equal to that!

At Sunday, February 06, 2011 3:01:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:53:00 PM Have you tried using a different ammo? Obviously whatever you are using isn't working. I've read on the net that the guns is picky about ammo.

At Monday, February 14, 2011 6:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought this the other day and took it out today. I shot 400 rounds. 100 rounds of CCI and 300 rounds of federal. out of the CCI I had 5 no fires and also retried but still no fired. Also had 3 that did not eject. The federal was a different story. 300 rounds 0 no fires and one that did not eject. Over all this is an extremely fun gun. It is picky with the amo but once you figure it out should have no problems. I also read if you are having feeding issues to see if you have the newer clips which have been redone by Walther to fix the feeding issue. Again though fun 22 and built well from what I can tell. Nice and heavy and extremely tight groupings.

At Sunday, June 19, 2011 5:35:00 PM, Anonymous Nick said...

I love the people on here that complain complain complain about this gun. They say it's SOOO hard to clean. BE A MAN...its really not that hard. You just push a few rods and pull the block out. I can disasemble and reassemble this rifle in like 15 minutes. As for misfires and FTE's....I have shot 300 rounds of Federal ammo (100 for $7..SO ITS AFFORDABLE) and never had a single problem. Generally the problem isnt the gun...its the retard behind it. I can't even believe some of you would rather just spray cleaning shit inside, and not even take anything apart. THATS WHY ITS MISFIRING YOU IDIOT! You MUST clean EVERY gun after putting rounds through it if you want it to perform flawlessly. If you think this gun is hard to field strip, then you probably dropped out of high school and kiss your sister.

To my fellow G22 lovers... We need to shut all of these dumbass people up. They clearly have no clue how to handle their firearms...

At Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not with him /\ ;-)

I got my paws on a used G22 which came with the Walther scope and red dot from a local gun store who had it listed on Gunbroker (aka Gun Matchmaker).

I fell in love with "G" the momemt I held her. :P

Unfortunately love makes men stupid and I got her even though she was dirty from firing by someone else (inuendo unintended). All the other used guns I've purchased were sparkling. Even more stupid was that I didn't even test fire her...and I got her at a gun store...with an indoor 100yd range. Yeah...really stupid. :S

Well, with some of the terrible reviews above, I was worried about what I got myself into...will dirty "G" take all my money and give me nothing but trouble?


Took her to the range early this morning...

...and her and I were dancing in unison all over the targets! :D


I used my standard Federal 525 ammo (now on sale at Gander Mountain shipped for $15 a box after rebate...I have like 30 boxes of the stuff). After hundreds of rounds, only one stovepipe - which is better than my other guns. Not only that, the accuracy was amazing! I also tried a few others including CCI Subsonic, but the F525 was good enough and bountiful, so I kept using it.

The best I got was 9 shots into a single 1/2" hole (had one stray/flier about a quarter inch out). Even at that range, the laser was a bit "blobbish", so this was quite amazing for non-target bulk ammo. :)

All in all, one of the best purchases I've made and I'm in love all over again (don't tell my wife please). =D


At Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:26:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

(Ken again)

One more thing to give you an idea how much I like "G".

I had done a bunch of firing and put her away into a locked case to jump to two other guns (one a S&W Model 41 target which shot better than the red dot on her).

I later went back to unlock the case and shoot "G" some more. The groups got better and I then got that 1/2" grouping @ 25yds (front resting on a small sandbag; however I plan to get a bipod grip). I would think with a better red dot/scope and ammo it can be cut down even smaller. Just amazing and fun. I'm putting off getting my dream target 10/22 for a while now. :)


At Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:46:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Walther® G22 rifle is capable of achieving shot groups as small as 0.25 inches (6.4 mm) at 55 yards (50 meters). From 500 feet away it is still possible to retain the same level of accuracy, especially when using a telescopic sight."



At Monday, March 05, 2012 2:56:00 PM, Anonymous Adam H said...

I have had this gun for over a year now and I have to say it's one of my favorite guns to just go out plinking with, I installed a cheap bushnell rimfire scope from walmart and I'm getting around 1" groups at 50 yards on a mildly windy day. I'm not going to say this is going to be my new hunting or target gun but for out plinking around it has to be one of the most fun guns that I have. There is a few things I recommend doing to it. First, remove the magazine safety spring and the bolt hold open spring and put them in a baggy and save for if you sell the gun, the gun will run fine without them, 2nd, put a dab of low strength locktite on the bolt handle screw, I've had this come loose numerous times and broke off once cause I forgot to check it. Other than that I love this gun for recreational purposes. On a side note I did have to call Smith and Wesson and order and new magazine safety spring and they were more than halpful and sent me 2 springs.

At Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:13:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the guys that have shot the ar-22's (colt and s and w) and the g22 which would you prefer for accuracy?

At Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought a used Carbon Fiber pattern Walther G22 last year. I previously thought they were ugly and felt I had no use for a .22lr.

However, I happened to see one at the Oahu gun show and it was all over as soon as I picked it up: she fit me like a glove and had perfect ergonomics and balance.

Have had no problem with CCI HP subsonics...making her creepy quiet! Only downside is that being discontinued, parts are no longer manufactured and will only keep getting harder to acquire. I just bought the laser sight off eBay for $79 and now looking for the sling swivels. Great little plinker for me and trainer for my kids.


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