Jennings J-22 Info
A while back I did a post on the Jennings J-22 pistol. That post still gets visitors, and a great comment about the J-22 was left by "FergusonTO35". Since the comment is unlikely to be found without specifically looking for it, I decided to post his comment verbatim in a post of its own.
Jennings enthusiasts, here you go:
Hey guys, I own 3 Jennings J-22's and 2 Jimenez JA-22's. Jimenez Arms is the current version of Bryco/Jennings, they are based in Las Vegas, NV. Being a J-22 fan, I can usually make one of these pistols as dependable as another .22 autoloader.
My first suggestion is to first put at least 250 rounds through the gun before making any judgments about it. These guns really do need a break in period before they give the best dependability and accuracy. As far as ammo goes, any common high velocity round nose ammo will work. Federal Champion #510 (available cheap at Wal-Mart) is the best I've found. CCI Mini Mag is great too, but costs more. Rounds that have long or very flat nose bullets generally do not feed in these guns.
After your pistol has fired a couple of hundred rounds it should be well broken in. If you are experiencing weak ejection or stovepipes (empty shell stays in the slide) examine the length of the firing pin nose which strikes the cartridge. Approximately 3.0-3.1 mm is right for most of these. Many of them come from the factory with a pin that is too long. This causes the empty shell to eject too early, causing a jam.
The feed lips of the magazine are another area which requires attention. My experience is that these mags function best when the spacing between the mag lips is .200-.205 inch. Too close together and the lips pinch the slide, impairing function. Too wide and the round will hit the top of the chamber mouth and jam instead of going into the chamber. The lips are supposed to aim the round right into the chamber, so with this in mind you can adjust accordingly.
These pistols are way more accurate than most people give them credit for. The key is to find its favorite ammo and to practice good trigger control. Remington Thunderbolt is hands down the most accurate in all my J-22/JA-22 pistols, I can shoot golf ball size groups at 10 yards all day. From the factory, these pistols have very stiff triggers and there's not a whole lot you can do to change it without creating potential safety problems. DO NOT under any circumstances modify the sear or sear spring in these guns. The good news is that the trigger pull tends to improve a great deal the more the gun is fired.
If you need help with your J-22 or any other Saturday Night Special type firearm, please visit us at www.bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com and go to the chat forum.
Thanks, FergusonTO35, for all the info!
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82 Comments:
I wonder if you could mount a scope on it?
You have really done it to me this time. Now I want one of these. I was looking at pistols in a store in Eastern Kentucky many years ago and one of the other customers told me that these were the "Shootinest Guns" in the case.
I'll agree that they are the "Shootinest Guns". I had one years ago that I could get to shoot full auto by letting the slide go with the safety on and my finger off the trigger (so the firing pin wouldn't go to a cocked position and would ride with the slide). Can't get more shootinest than that. That one had so many rounds through it that the extractor had worn a hole in the barrel. This caused a lot of FTE's (3 out of 4 maybe). I still have another one but it is almost new. I'm debating what to do with it. I'm afraid to shoot it figuring the extractor will eat a hole in the barrel on this one too. Any idea if the extractor hole is a common problem or was that an odd case?
As I think I said in the previous thread, I owned a J-22 ages ago, and it was great.
Quite reliable with hypervelocity ammo such as CCI Stingers.
Right when I got out of the military I picked up a Jennnings from a local pawn show,it was the only thing I could afford at the time. Sadly, I sold it off and regret it to this day. Even though it wasn't the most reliable pistol,it was kind of neat to shoot.
I have a J-22 and is having problems with it the shells dont come out when I shoot it jams alot. Can anybody help me with this problem is there anything I can do so that this stops.
I had the same problem until I started using Hypervelocity CCI Stingers. have fired a couple of hundred with nice groupings and no problems
Looking for a parts sheet on the j-22 by jennings firearms, INC. cal west co. ohio usa.
I want to take it a part and put it back together.
Just pulled mine out after years of sitting. Since we have a new 10/22 to take out, I figured might as well put some rounds through this too. I remember really liking this little gun, and it being pretty accurate at handgun distances, wouldn't want to shoot anything this small long distances. Granted, I bought this secondhand, so maybe it was already well broken in. I have probably put 500 rounds through it in my possession, no feed problems or such. Guess I got lucky.
just picked up a j22 .it hadn't been shot since new in the mid 80's
it was so dry it wouldn't feed so i grapped a can of jd blaster and sprayed the slide and all inside then shot 4 clips worth without any problems was using the stinger ammo
what is the value of this gun 633645 j-22
I have a j-22 and the empty shell is ejecting with no problems. The next round is jaming befor loading into the chamber. I am using CCI ammo. Any sugestions?
A J-22 in great shape, with nice wood grips is valued around $89.
i want 3-4 xtra clips?
any ideas...
Go to GunBroker dot com. You can buy extra magazines for the j-22. I got mine brand new for $10. Prices went up slightly to $13-$20 now per magazine for this firearm.
I have an never fired Jenings 22 that is cocked and won't fire, trigger won't pull, won't dry fire. Can't dis-assemble from the cocked position. What can I do?
charles
To Charles on the jammed pistol.
Remove the right grip and see if the trigger bar assembly is hung up.
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Hi Folks.....
I have a J-22 Jennings, mfr'd Chino CA, in the black teflon.....Originally got it for the flatter grips...Would like to if the std grips will fit, I find I now want a fuller grip in my hand...
I also saw a Wikipedia ref that some of the pistols were aluminum alloy, and later ones zinc...
SN is 1499XX.....
Any way to tell....?
Do you think that Aquila Hyper Velocity, 1800fps will damage the gun, or should I stick with sorta 1400fps ammo? On another note, dry firing a Jennings is a sure recipe for disaster, since it "crimps" the throat of the barrel, resulting in "un-ejected" casings. Please discuss..
hi guys is there anybody who have
one or two mags 4 jennings j22
please let me know..
just got a j-22 and the shot shell do's not eject. it still in barrel what may be the problem and how do u take apart?
I have a J-22 that I bought new back in early 89. Reoccuring problem with it after firing and the slide goes to return to battery the whole damn thing flies apart and wont chamber another round and I'm looking all over for the pin, spring and housing, (spring and pin housing) I would take it to a gunsmith but it would probably cost more to have them look at it then to just trash the POS. Any thoughts?
I've seen that happen more than once. Mine did it one time, but after I took it all apart and smoothed and polished everything it hasn't happened since. It seems to be most common on new ones...
Mr. C.
I just picked up a j 22 from my dad for 50 $. I plan on using it as my ccw gun for awhile until I decide what I will carry permanantly and can save up to buy it. I have shot this gun before and I remember having a lot of trouble with stovepipe jams. Now I have an idea of where to start looking for ways to solve the problem. I am glad I found this blog. thanks mr.c. I will bookmark you and will be back with questions about my search for my permanent carry gun.
I might have to break the good one that I have out and fire it a few times. Seems most people have had better luck than I had with my first one. Heck, this might even turn out to be reliable enough that I'd consider carrying it as my BUBUBUG.
May 8,
Charles,
I had the same problem. If you can move the slide hopefully there is no live round in the gun. If empty take the right grip off and with a needlenose move the lever assembly that is activated by the trigger lever up until you can feel it has centered over the pin that has drifted loose. Now you can dry fire and release the firing pin. Look at the back of the gun if it's cocked you can see the end of the firing pin through the hole in the keeper that holds the slide on. Now press that keeper in about 1/4" and lift the slide up off the gun. The firing pin spring will probably fly out be prepared. With the slide off you can see the hatchet shaped part on the starboard side that controls the firing pin. It pivots on the pin. That pin has drifted to port and is letting the hatchet shaped part jam against the inside of the slide. I fixed mine with a piece of plastic I put it in the port side of the hole to keep the pin in place. I will probably have a pin machined to make a more permanent fix. Fired ten clips yesterday gun shoots perfect.
Tom, Spokane
I have a new unfired chrome (shiny) Jennings J-22 with walnut grips and 1 magazine. I was wondering if it would be worth more with the original blue cardboard box it came in. Where would be a good place to sell it? I must have had it for at least 20 yrs.
I have a J22 and checking the firing pin length mentioned at the top of this blog, mine is out of spec, it is too long.
What choices does one have in this situation? Do they shorten the pin length themselves OR do they buy another pin? IF it is buying a pin, do we need to specify its length??
Thanks for the assist with this.
I have a j22 that my father gave me but unfortunaly it did not have a magazine would anybody be kind enough to sell me one
I just bought a JA22 and was wondering if I need long rifle bullets or shorts? please email me back brebartosh@gmail.com
Breanne,
The Jennings will only work with .22 Long Rifle ammunition. You may need to try several different brands and types until you find the one that works the most reliably for you. CCI and Federal would be a couple of good brands to start with. I've heard a number of people have had good results with CCI .22LR Mini-Mags. If the pistol is new it may take several hundred rounds for it to break in and run smoothly.
Mr. C.
Tony-
Is your pistol having any problems? If the pistol feeds, fires, and ejects ok then I wouldn't worry about it. The measurement I gave is just a nominal that seems to work in most guns. What kind of ammo are you using?
Ferguson
I have an Iver Johnson TP-22 and a Jennings J-22, both work fine but you have to grip the Jennings a little tighter to allow the slide to fully cycle.
They both like CCI mini mags and CCI high velocity jacketed HP rounds, the Jennings is in an ankle holster and the TP-22 is in a crossdraw holster for easy access when seated in a car.
I DO NOT use uncoated lead bullets in either of these small autos as they jam too much and foul up these guns requiring cleaning after 50 - 100 rounds.
My Davis D-22 derringer fires anything I put in it but is too slow for anything but close range plinking.
I fired a Iver Johnson TP-25 and found that the 25 acp might be more reliable, but it doesn't have the penetration that a 22 does.
I am looking for a good holster for Concealed carry of the Jennings J-22. Would the holster be the same size as a Beretta Tomcat or a Phoenix Hp22? Please respond by email at bna42@sbcglobal.net
I have a BRAND NEW j22 stainless still in the box with all paperwork and still in the plastic bag never fired that is forsale if anyone is interested make me an offer fordman97f150@yahoo.com
I just got a jennings j-22 (my cousin got it for me for x-mas) and while I was waiting to get it I did a lot of research, and was a little worried that I was getting a POS, I went out and put 30 rds. through it, with no problems, and can't wait till this weekend to put a few hundred more through it...
i bought a j-22 and it has been very well broken in i have tried firing many ammos through it and if its not one thing with this gun its another either the empty shell dose not eject or the round coming up jams how fo i fix? or should i just part it?
Do not "dry fire" the gun. It causes "preening" at the barrel troat; i.e. slight denting which prevents proper feeding or ejection.
Try CCI mini mags, most reliable; I tried Aguilla, Stingers and many more.
Thunderbolts and Mini-Mags(albeit only 1260fps) perform the best.
Also polishing the feed ramp is an idea, worked for me.
i have a few questions about the j-22 if u could email me at youdontknowme8889@yahoo.com and trying help me i would greatly appricate it
A client gave me a J-22 that he found in the crawl-space of his house. It was very rusty and the firing pin seems to be cocked and is stuck. I can not disassemble the piece. I realize this gun may never fire, but it will be a good learning experience for me. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Bill
I have a j22 still new and the round comin up jams up wat can I do to fix it I use Winchester 22 bullets can anyone please give advice
Just took out my JA-22 to fire it, a new firearm and the firing pin would not strike the rim enough to cause the round to fire. Is there a simple way to adjust the firing pin?
robjay@charter.net
Finally got around to testing my J22 prior to going to the range with it. Dummy rounds would not feed! In the store enough people had dry fired it so the firing pin had deformed the top of the champer rim. A bit of work to fix, but it now works well with the blue dummy rounds. Next stop: purchase a whole assortment of ammo. Thanks guys for the heads up on the ammo sensitivity: my 22 revolver will use anything, so what the J22 wants it gets! Thanks Again!
I have an old Jennings 22lr it is chrome plated and has the smooth wood grips. I have never had a single problem with CCI Mini Mags. when firing a lower power round the slide does not gather enough energy to extract the fired round and draw a new round out of the magazine. Use a good strong round and have happy shooting.
I bought a new Jiminez J22 & have had lots of trouble with it. Mostly fired rnds won't eject & new ones jam,also too hard to take apart. Took it back to gun shop & the owner tried it to confirm my complaints. He said he'd send it back to Jimjnez to have it fixed. I've learned the older Jennings are more trouble free & I would like to buy one if any one has one they want to sell (either 22 or 25 cal )plz email me & maybe we can work something out.
On my last post I forgot my email address---it is scar1441@gmail.com
My father in law gave me a J-22 but it has no firing pin, spring and stop button!! I have looked all over the net only to find "sold out" or Listing no longer available". Does anyone know where I can get these? Hate to trash this little gun!
My email is
leagan.scott@gmail.com
Juts got my first J-22 on a barter for a broken rototiller. I have nice guns like Sigs but heard of these J22 and curiosity got the best of me and I traded the tiller for the J22. I did notice right off on research some guns say Irvine and some Chino, mine is the plated version with wood handles they guy I bought has had it 20years. How can a person find out more about these guns.
I love history of guns and curiousness this model.
I just recently acquired a j-22 that is chrome with Pearl grips. I paid next to nothing for it, and was wondering what kind of value it has? Its a beautiful handgun and I fell in love with ot at first glance, and pull of the trigger. So value doesn't really matter, just kind of interested to know.
Thanks
I have a J-22 that jammed a bit when fired, read your ammo post and will work through some diff ammo. When I go to disassemble the piece, the slide gets hung up at the end of the barrel and will not go past it. Any comments on that?
My friend bought a Jamamatic J-22 back late last century. He had problems w/ it from the start, one day at the range it came apart. He told me I could have the parts, I found them all and took it home. A few weeks ago I found it while cleaning up. I took it out and placed a tarp on the ground to catch the parts, yep same ol thing. I read up on the net and disassembled it, cleaned and polished the parts. It would work and not fly apart! But still had FTF and FTE issues. One rainy day at work I disassembled and cleaned it and cleaned the bore good. The only slickem we had in stock at work was CRC Heavy Duty Silicone spray (no I don't have a dog in the hunt, it is just what we had) I coated the parts and let them dry. The thing has run like a scaled dawg since, 250+ rds ( cci, rem, and std. velotiy) w/o a hick-up. clean up is a breeze too, fouling wipes right off. I did the same to my ccw gun too. Now I don't think I would go this way for something I was going to be shooting in matches (I would use convectional oil and grease). The silicone does not attract dirt and lint that seems to be the bane of ccw guns. Just thought I would share this that I had found by accident.
i just got a jenning j 22 and when i loaded the clip i pulled it back. and shell went to load in chamber and stop it wouldn't load up. i changed ammo. same thign went back to gun shop the guy gave me a new clip. still same thing i cock the gun and the bullet gets stuck before entering the chsmber.
Mine jamed but over the years dry firing i filed the part of the barrel were the shells goes in cleaned it up works good
I have 2 j22s I love both of them. if you want them to shoot as good as any other Saturday night special you need to take them apart and deburr everything. file the ramp into the barrel so the bullets have a slightly wider funnel into the chamber. file magazine lips at the top so the rim of the bullet is not dragging and forcing the bullet head first into the top of the slide. Also there are several videos on YouTube just type in Jennings J22 and you will see a lot of videos from j22 fans and haters alike. I love mine and if you get sick of yours email me and I'll buy it from you. Shootadeah@gmail.com good luck.
NUMRICH.COM they have parts lists you can download. and they sell every part for these pee shooters. good luck.
They were about $80 new. most sell for about $50-100 depending on condition and era YouTube Jennings J22 collection. he breaks down the era of each model and what companywas making which model and when. great video.
Hey, you guys and gals who have feeding problems with these 22s listen up - every other shot hung up until I bought some CCI Mini Mags and the gun works great now.
The extractor blew up now mine. After filing it an stuff, it works better than ever even without an extractor. I use federal ammunition. Just file all the nessessary parts of the gun and keep it clean.
Is there any other brands of magazines that will fit a Jennings j22
hey just wanted to give my input on feeding issues with low grade ammo if you want your jennings to shoot low grade ammo you can always weaken your recoil spring just gotta be careful not to weaken it too much or you wont feed rounds from the clip did it to my jennings and it feeds crap ammo perfectly
I have a j-22 that is one of the first 100k made in teflon black. Have original box from 1979. Its not my thing. will sell for $100 or trade for Derringer in 22. 32. hushmail14@gmail.come
what is piece behind the firing spring called that holds the pin and spring in?
Go to www.numrich.com for a schmatic of the gun. There is also a parts list also.
Hope this helps
I saw a video from midway usa about fte from his 22 rifle and it is from dry fire and caused some flattening of the barrel and for both of Jennings 22 it was right at the top almost unnoticeable. I swaged the barrel back to round and took them out an now shoot great. I bought the swaging tool from midway and will use for the 10-22 if this should happen to it.
my Jennings j 22 is not catching and either is my trigger... Any suggestions I should try??
I recently bout a j-22 but when I load the gun and pull the slide back no bullet loads what can I do?..I'm using hollow point shells
I just picked up a Jennings J22 from the gun shop I work for....I got some funny looks from my coworkers, but screw 'em, it was 50 bucks! I figured, best case, I have a nice cheap fun noisemaker, and worst case, police buybacks would give me more than I paid for it....and I can go buy another gun...I love the idea of trolling the buyback programs like that. I did notice after dry firing that, just like many commenters before me have mentioned, it flattens out a portion of the barrel at the 12 o'clock position. Turning a phillips screwdriver in the chamber a couple times removed that burr and it feeds just fine. I can't wait to take this thing out and put some rounds through it!
I bought a Jennings J 22 last week and it had never been field stripped, I made the first rookie mistake taking the slide off the pistol and took the firing pin out and things went flying all over my house. I have a part that I can't find in any scamatics on any parts list. Im sure it has something to do with the ejector. its a flat piece of metal that has both ends bent into a 90 degree. Iv been on utube and have seen the basic break down but don't see this part anywhere in the schematics. as Iv said its a flat piece of metal with a slight bow in the middle and both ends are bent into a 90 degree. The pistol at first extracted the shell after every shot but won't completely extract the case after shooting now.The gun still shoots and receives the first round but won't extract the shell now. It has to be part of the extractor but I can't find the piece in exploded parts lists.PLEASE can you help. the piece is
when you mesuer from the outside of the 90 degree bend to the other side to that 90 degree bend its an inch and 9/16. Mine is bk
lack metal my cell number is ( 913 ) 426-8341 or if you can send a schematic picture of where it goes and how it fits themn my e mail is rlkropp@gmail.com or RLKROPP@gmail.com Thank you.
What's the approximate value of a J22, described this way: "I have a old, looks heavily used Jennings J22. I have no idea of the quality, I have never fired it but it looks heavily used. Comes with two inside the waist holsters that almost fit it (a little on the large side) and two magazines."
What can be done so the empty casein can eject?
What can be done so the empty casein can eject?
Reading the previous comments would be a good start.....
Flashprez,
I have a J-22 and I was wondering about shooting hollow points in it. Should I go 40 grain or 50?
Both the slide and frame are made of Zinc, so reliability, if achieved, is a temporary phenomena.
Help me out I can't get my model j-22 to chamber a round what do u think
Mines in the cocked position I forgot to put a piece back in now I can't get the slide off what do i do?
I have a 22 I ordered all the parts from auctions and gunbrokers ect. the 1 I already own works great but this one refuses to extract. I've tried everything I can think of I love the type of gun, there fun at the range any tips?
I recently came into possession of a Jennings J-22 by accident/surprise. a few years back I had bought a used bedroom set, two days ago I discovered a hidden drawer on the bottom of the nightstand. Inside was a J-22, it was dirty & had no clip in it. I've just been researching on the gun to see if it's worth buying a clip for or not. (I've never shot a j22 before) this blog has been very informative. Thanks evryone
Give me a call please if you still have the j22 for sale please. Thank you.....Drew 707-207-9257
Bought J-22 about 30 yrs ago and I love it.I get empty shell jamming once in a while and it's tell me "clean me" and back to working great.
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