FN Five-SeveN 5.7 x 28 Range Report

Well, I finally got out to the range to do a little shooting. I didn't have as much time as I'd have liked though, for a couple of reasons.
The CWSA range is located just off of the end of the Navy's runway where they practice their carrier landings with the EA6-B's. They are fun to watch, but I had other things to do and a short time schedule.
Whenever the Navy is in the pattern you can't be shooting, since they fly their short final just beyond the berm at the end of the pistol range. It was a matter of take three of four shots, then put the guns down and wait for the Navy for five minutes or so, then shoot some more, then wait some more. I always thought we should be able to charge the Navy extra for providing them with some realistic live fire training, but they didn't sem to see it that way.
Anyhow, I brought along the FN and some "Seein' Stars" targets. LouG met me at the range with his Ruger .22 and his S&W 586 with a red dot sight on it.
I loaded up a magazine for the FN and hung some targets, a "sighter" and a couple of e-Postal match targets. I only had one box of fifty rounds, so a lot of shooting was out of the question. Lou and I both shot some sight-in rounds, and adjusted the rear sight a bit to get it zero'ed.
The gun fits your hand well, and seems to come up onto target well. Recoil, in spite of what some say, IS more than a .22. The extreme light weight of the FN affects the perceived recoil a bit, but I'd say it's similar to a .22 magnum, maybe a little less. Very mild, no matter how you look at it!
The front sight is tall and rather wide, and the notch in the adjustable rear sight, at least for me, was too wide for the width of the front sight. There was just too much space on either side of the front sight when viewed in the rear sight notch. Maybe my arms are just too short?
After shooting up most of the ammo I came to the conclusion that between the sights and my lousy eyesight, I have no idea how accurate it actually is. It needs something like a red dot on it to be able to really find out what it can do. I suspect it's rather accurate, but I wasn't able to prove it, either way.
There is an accessory rail under the barrel, but it may or may not be solid enough to firmly hold a red dot sight mount bracket and have it maintain zero after a lot of shooting.
Taking the slide off to have a look inside is sort of a fiddly operation. Because of it's small size, the slide release button is hard to hold rearward so you can get the slide off. If your hands are cold it's even harder, and if you are wearing gloves, it can't be done. Once the slide is off, everything inside is easily accessible.
My evaluation? 5.7 x 28 is kind of an in "between" round. Lots of velocity, so it should shoot really flat, but not a whole lot of stopping power when it arrives. Ammunition is far too expensive to buy one of these FN's just as a plinker. There's lots of 9mm's that would do the job and be a lot cheaper to feed. In some ways the 5.7 x 28 round is more interesting than is the FN itself. The 5.7 might be interesting in something like a Thompson Contender for target work.
I see some similarities between the FN Five-seveN and the AMT Auto-Mag II in .22 Magnum. Ammo is too expensive to be a cheap and fun plinker, but too small to be a real "Stopper" as a defense weapon.
It's fun to shoot, but somehow it just didn't get me all pumped up over it. It fed flawlessly, even as a brand new gun, which speaks well for it, but I don't think I'd buy one for myself. I probably wouldn't shoot it much.
If they put a .22 long rifle barrel on it, and managed to get 25 or 30 rounds into the magazine, and got the price down a bit to be competitive with other .22 semi-autos, that might be another story.
Now that WOULD be a FUN plinker!





18 Comments:
Are there any semi-autos with a capacity greater than 10 rounds? Now that the AWB road off into the sunset it seems like an untapped market.
I mean .22 semi-autos in the above. DOH!
I came to the same conclusion with my FN Five seveN. Not only is the ammo expensive, but it's difficult to find as well. Fun gun to shoot, but I'll stick with my AutoMag II until the price and availability of the 5.7 cartridge changes.
And oh yeah - they HAVE put a long rifle barrel on it and managed to get more than 30 rounds in it. It's called the P90 (or PS90 for civilians).
Again - overpriced ($1,599 - $1,999) even in full auto flavor.
My wife purchased a FiveSeveN with 2 20
round mags and a 4 boxes of ammo. We
have fired a couple mags at the range.
It's Ok, but the ammo is too expensive
and too hard to find. Reloading dies
are pricey and the brass gets stretched
pretty bad. I'm not sure we will keep
it for the long term. It's a boutique
oddity.
The ammo was designed to overcome the
inability of 9mm NATO to penetrate the
bullet proof vests of enemy soldiers.
It does that fine. The stopping power
of a 31 gr bullet at 2100 fps is
debatable. You'll probably need most
of the 20 rounds to stop a determined
attacker.
sshaving a 18' contender barrel made
33gn TNT & true blue App 6gns
a plce to start
I have to admit the round seems very interesting and all the more so since so many nations are considering adoption of this round or their own similiar one. I do have to wonder about actual stopping power though I am wondering why so many elite units (FBI, Secret Service, Capitol Police have been seen using these in the form of the P90 series) have been using these for at least a few years.
i recently bought a fiveseven after reading up on it and renting one to shoot, i found it to be of low recoil and very accurate relative my 9mm, glock 19 , taurus pt92 and kahr k9
How far does a 22 LR bullet really go.
Not what it say on the box.I understand there is variables but I do not think that it goes a mile and a half like it says on the box.
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I don't know where you shop for ammo but Bass Pro Shop carries a 50 round box of 5.7 x 28 for $19.95 . As far as stopping power its not designed to stop and attacker like conventional defense weapons but by the shock of the impact ( 2400 FPS ) much like the .223 round used in Veitnam and todays military weapons . Either way I feel comfortable carrying my 5.7 x 28 and feel with the additional magizine capacity and the choices of ammo on the market I'll be able to defend myself as well as or even more so than I did when I carried a HK USP 45 . Its a super defense weapon as far as I'm concerned . Being a Gunsmith for 20 years and a member of several gun clubs I learned one thing , no matter how big the bore or how large the magizine there's nothing like a well placed shot . PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT .
I saw a gentleman on an fn forum who was advertising exotic fn five seven rounds. His e-mail address was wildeye111@sbcglobal.net e had good prices on ammo. I have a five seven but the ammo, is not cheap. This guy may have the solution
The 5.7 is not very good for the money spent. 1,000.00 for a niche rounded pistol? Yeah it's lite but so are the Springfields and Glocks and you can get them in 9mm-.40-.45 that are proven winners for less than 1/2 the price.
And for plinking, a 9mm or 22 is all ya need.
"...the Five-seveN's ammunition is designed to hit, travel a few inches, then tumble end over end without deforming. This means that the wound it creates would be as tall as the length of the projectile (more than 21 mm), supposedly creating a more grievous wound channel, but without the expansion of a hollow point or the fragmentation of a frangible bullet. As a result, FN claims the round—and the Five-seveN—are suitable for military use."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seveN
I don't own one yet, but saw ammo for it available at
http://eliteammunition.com
I have had mine Five Seven for more than two years, and it carry it now instead of my Sig .357 because of the weight factor.I have no doubt the kenetic engery that is deposited in the wound cavity and the rapid loss of blood this round produce will the determined the stopping power of this round.
I read your review and I understand your position, but I think we all know what it can do and why it was created. You can literally hit a target with a flying ice pick of a bullet at 100 yards from a pistol. And it penetrates soft armor even the non AP versions.
Light, reliable, and 20 round mags, the capability with the right version of the bullet to create a significant wound cavity, referring to the blue tip version, all though those don't feed well in the pistol and better in the p-90
I have two thirty round clips; In short, I have eighty-one little flying ice picks to do my bidding.
I only had a feeding issue with one of my magazines. The price of ammunition is a little steep just to punch holes through paper targets. I mounted a lasermax on it. The pistol profile is so whimpy looking I had to beef it up.
Try this article about stopping power.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf
I think it makes a good argument for penetration, and therfore the five seven. I'm thinking about getting one soon.
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